The Floor Trader Method uses 3 basic concepts.
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Below are some variations for triggers not mentioned as part of Floor Trader Method. Some of these triggers become subjective and the success depends on the traders ability to gauge the market "personality".
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Note: the highest % success will be with trigger on first pullback after the ema crossover. |
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There are many other variations to this...more in future. If you are trading a variation please share with the group your success.
Futures trading courses and systems are offered for sale at prices ranging
from a few hundred dollars to several thousand dollars.
Many of these trading methods are not new or original.
Often they are based on information found in trading books or articles
written decades ago. In some cases they are old trading methods
repackaged in new books (or made into software), and sold at high prices.
The original sources of these methods are sometimes obscure and unknown to
the general public.
If you know where to look, however, some of these high-priced futures
trading systems can be traced back to their original source - at a much
lower price.
And there are some trading methods, of recent design, known only to a few Chicago traders, the few that actually make a living from trading - rather than from hawking books, software, and seminars.
I am an ex-floor trader and
broker living in Chicago.
The basis of this system was told to me several years ago by a veteran floor
trader at the Mid- America exchange in Chicago. He had two futures accounts:
one for his day trading, and another for "position" trading, using this
method almost exclusively. He was a millionaire and traded large positions,
but he started his career with a small account. He made the millions from
the market, using his methods, over several years. (He was a contemporary of
Richard Dennis). He didn't mention who created the system.
The system was originally created for position trading. I developed some
variations which work for day trading stock index futures.
Variations of this trading system are known to a handful of people in the
Chicago trading community. I have been told of one individual who charges
$1000 for instruction, using one of the variations.
The Floor Trader Method -
A STORY FROM THE TRADING BATTLEFIELD
I am a futures trader living
in Chicago. I've worked in the industry for many years, as an exchange
employee, order desk clerk, Series 3 broker, and finally as an independent
floor trader at the CBOT (MidAm division). I learned much from the veteran
traders at the MidAm, but the profit potential of floor trading was limited
due to the scarcity of "outside orders" at that exchange. So I took the
skills I had picked up from the floor and applied them to off-floor trading.
I knew that I had to develop my own system for day trading, as the popular
methods around then either didn't work, produced meager profits, or had a
low win percentage.
I knew that the old "trend following" and "breakout" methods were
unsuitable. Some traders, in interviews or articles, would say things like,
"our system only produces a 40% win percentage, but the winning trades more
than make up for the losers". To me, that type of trading was absurd.
I, and most normal people, would not want to endure 60% loss percentage. (A
coin toss is 50%!).
(Some of the "systems" or "trading courses" still being sold today are based
on these outdated principles.)
I became a Series 3 broker at a local FCM. My plan was to advise clients on
futures trading while trading my own account. The owners of the firm were
unusually tight-fisted about expenses. To cut costs, the brokers had to
share quote terminals in groups of 2-3. This particular firm cut costs in
other ways, including quality of floor service, which was to cause major
problems later on.
But in the meantime, I studied charts and systems, made observations, and
traded. I searched for a way to apply the floor trader's "scalping"
technique to off-floor trading. The first year was tough, financially, but I
made a breakthrough in the second year which led to the first profitable
month of day trading I had ever posted. Then, the second month was
profitable. And so on. I went from trading the NYFE to the S&P (at that
time, the S&P was still $500 per index point). The win-loss ratio of this
method was around 9 to 1. One week I made eleven winning trades in a row.
The customer business also picked up, for myself and everyone in the office.
The Grain markets of 1996 were taking off and a lot of commissions and new
accounts were coming in. We traded the customers all week, and partied every
weekend. Some of us flew to Las Vegas, the Caribbean, or Mexico for
three-day trips, but tried to be back by at least Tuesday - there was a lot
of money to be made.
So I was day trading the S&P and winning, and my account grew, despite the
cash withdrawals.
I also collected larger and larger commission checks. I increased my trading
size, and even used my methods to day trade Coffee futures, which was a
feared market at the time.
That summer I made a return trip to New York City, to visit friends and to
live it up in Manhattan, of course. I could afford it now. I returned to
Chicago a little hyped, thinking of relocating to Manhattan and trading
full-time for a living. I decided to trade my account even more
aggressively, increase my profits, and drop the brokerage part of the
business, as the customers were becoming time-consuming. Then I would be
free to live elsewhere.
I hit the markets hard Monday morning. I got nailed for a quick $450 loss
near the open, but I bailed out, and made $600 later that day. I was even
more confident, having turned a losing day into a winner. The next two day
were all winners. I was ahead $2100 by Wednesday's close.
Thursday was a different story.
I didn't realize it at the time, but the events of that Thursday were
foreshadowed by some disasters that had befallen several customers and IB's
of the firm.
That spring, the Corn, Wheat, and Soybean markets were the busiest anyone
had ever seen (since the ‘88 markets, at least) but the floor operation used
by our firm was doing a terrible job of handling the flood of orders we sent
in. At the CBOT, and the CME as well. As the owners of our firm were
obsessed with saving money any way possible, they usually hired the lowest
they could find, which was often the worst they could find. Orders that
should have been filled were coming back "unable"; orders we thought were
unable were being reported as "filled" the following day. Stops were
being "blown through" by hundreds of dollars. Customers went "debit"; some
threatened lawsuits; one IB trading through us went out of business. I
figured I could avoid the madness by staying with the S&P's, which hadn't
had major problems up to then.
Well, the problem service reached the S&P, as well. On that Thursday, I
placed a limit order to sell. I canceled the order a short time later. I
stopped watching the indexes for awhile - the grain customers were keeping
me busy. Market action indicated that the S&P order should be "nothing done"
- provided it was canceled, on time, by our floor operation. It wasn't.
The sell order was "too late to cancel". That was bad enough. However, due
to incompetence and ignorance in both the floor and office operations, the
sell was not reported to me for nearly two hours.
To make a long story short, Thursday was a disaster. I was short the S&P
without knowing it, and the market was rallying to new highs.
The next mistake was mine. Veteran traders know what I mean; one day you
lose perspective, and trade emotionally rather than logically. I was enraged
over the operations error, and instead of getting out immediately and
salvaging the rest of my account, I attempted to "trade out of it".
I "averaged up" - sold more contracts. The funny thing is, my system called
for being long the market - but all logic and reason went out the window
that day.
The market continued higher. At the close, my account was "blown out". Eight
months of winning trades destroyed by one afternoon of insanity.
I have long since left that firm, and the retail customer business. I am now focused on trading the markets and perfecting my methods.
Things have changed in the
futures markets. The size of the S&P contract has been cut in half, and the
CME finally introduced a mini S&P, long overdue. Electronic trading and
Internet order entry has made precision day trading more feasible - much
better than in the old days of phoning in orders.
Real-time quotes are now available over the Internet, along with chart
graphics. I'm back on the day trading battlefield. I have refined the method
I used back then, and it works even better than before.
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