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stratavarious
12 Posts
Posted - 02/27/2012 19:54:56    
tach,
Just wanted to say thanks for sharing your work and ideas and follow posts. I've tried a few of these the last few days - some winners and some losers, but I'm learning from my mistakes (I think) and I see the potential. It'll take me a while to get the hang of it. Thanks again !
groh1
336 Posts
Posted - 02/27/2012 20:31:28    
quote:
Originally posted by TradingDude

quote:
How can you possibly monitor 8-10 trades a day


The way I do it is by using RadarScreen with color coded cells and Alerts, sorting to bring candidates that meet entry criteria to the top. All linked to chart and matrix.

TradingDude




TradingDude,

One futher question. Are you only looking at one time frame on your Chart AND RadarScreen (or are you looking at multiple time frames) to make your decisions?
TradingDude
18643 Posts
Posted - 02/27/2012 21:59:03    
quote:
Originally posted by groh1
quote:
Originally posted by TradingDude

quote:
How can you possibly monitor 8-10 trades a day


The way I do it is by using RadarScreen with color coded cells and Alerts, sorting to bring candidates that meet entry criteria to the top. All linked to chart and matrix.

TradingDude




TradingDude,

One futher question. Are you only looking at one time frame on your Chart AND RadarScreen (or are you looking at multiple time frames) to make your decisions?


5 minute bar interval
ottrader
72 Posts
Posted - 02/28/2012 00:58:43    
quote:
Originally posted by TradingDude

quote:
How can you possibly monitor 8-10 trades a day


The way I do it is by using RadarScreen with color coded cells and Alerts, sorting to bring candidates that meet entry criteria to the top. All linked to chart and matrix.

TradingDude



not a bad idea... I will see if I can do something similar, I just had the charts for all open positions up given I have a pair of 27" 2560x1440 monitors on my main trading workstation, so it wasn't all that hard... lots of screen real estate.
groh1
336 Posts
Posted - 02/28/2012 09:16:59    
Thanks TradingDude and tachyonv! Very interesting thread.
benuchcale
32 Posts
Posted - 02/28/2012 09:43:54    
Most of my indicators and showmes got corrupted. Currently with TS support trying to find out why. Last thing I did is download eld files from different forums. The EL is a whole lot of
benuchcale
32 Posts
Posted - 02/28/2012 09:47:39    
symbols. No EL
pap pap
957 Posts
Posted - 02/28/2012 10:53:49    
Congrats Tach for this thread.

It is positive, no politics, not personal jabs, just talking about trading and is a good thing to see quite a few pick up the method and making some money with it.

One common thing that it appears that might be helpful at some point to discuss once everyone is very comfortable with the method would be to discuss the exits as there have been comments that "maybe could got more out of the trade" or "exited early" etc....

I really don't recall a discussion where folks were making money together and stayed on point mostly with the point of the thread and with such harmony.

Maybe the thread creator has something to do with that...

-pap
jeff123
313 Posts
Posted - 02/28/2012 10:57:35    
Nice post Tach...I like the way price tends to hurry across the channel.
DirtyGoatee
41 Posts
Posted - 02/28/2012 11:31:32    
Thanks Tachyonv for your kindness in sharing.

First day I traded this live today...took IDCC for +.52

probably could have traded others (ALXN,OPEN ) pre 10 am est but I was cautious with the Consumer Confidence coming out.

bwjr
132 Posts
Posted - 02/28/2012 11:41:59    
IDCC 38.96@1030 +0.52, RCC 63.46@1015 +0.52, GMCR 65.99@1020 +0.52 (no losses)
I almost pulled the trigger on ALXN@945 but there wasn't 0.50 between my entry and yesterdays low which I thought might be resistance, but turns out was insignificant.
split
108 Posts
Posted - 02/28/2012 12:32:39    
Struggling a bit this week.

Took a loss yesterday NFLX 108.41 -.25

A bit better today

NFLX 113.81 +.16, NFLX 113.28 took a 3rd off at 113.54( +.26), 3rd off at 113.48 ( +.20) and final 3rd at 113.33 ( +.05) only to watch it 4 mins later pop to .52 target.
migleve
13 Posts
Posted - 02/28/2012 12:51:56    
Dear Tachyonv.....

NFLX bought 113.44 sold 114.00. Perfect!!

I used to trade emini with emini-watch.com indicators, but your strategy works perfectly with them. The support/resistance leves and the "better momentum" of emini-watch are very helpful added to your strategy and "tradable indicator". It seems very easy by now.

Thanks, thanks. thanks.

ottrader
72 Posts
Posted - 02/28/2012 13:23:29    
quote:
Originally posted by migleve
Dear Tachyonv.....

NFLX bought 113.44 sold 114.00. Perfect!!

I used to trade emini with emini-watch.com indicators, but your strategy works perfectly with them. The support/resistance leves and the "better momentum" of emini-watch are very helpful added to your strategy and "tradable indicator". It seems very easy by now.

Thanks, thanks. thanks.




interesting, I am also using the _Better Sine SR, JMA edition, with the setup and I found it rather useful.. glad to see that someone else is using that indi for S/R levels...
ottrader
72 Posts
Posted - 02/28/2012 13:27:07    
did anyone traded QCOR today? I would be curious to know how anyone handled it within this specific system.. tach? any input as to how it would have been handled? basically, it open, and it never made a LL during the period.. so I am debating what one should do those times things like this happen, to skip the trade overall, or if one should use some discretion and just go long on the first pull back within the timeframe for entering the trade and just exit at the target...


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DBDHT
452 Posts
Posted - 02/28/2012 13:52:58    
RRC +.73...Best trade to date with this system
DVN +.57...entered to early but it turned out ok
bwjr
132 Posts
Posted - 02/28/2012 14:07:10    
I never considered NFLX or QCOR to be at a "low price" this morning. Both were at or above the upper KC channel. I've been buying around the lower KC.
migleve
13 Posts
Posted - 02/28/2012 17:01:49    
quote:
Originally posted by bwjr
I never considered NFLX or QCOR to be at a "low price" this morning. Both were at or above the upper KC channel. I've been buying around the lower KC.


Neither do I, but with these indicator I saw a support level when the %R was oversold. I chose NFLX thanks to the tradable symbols indicator, and after the orange dot of KJDtimeAvgLow (Ant indicator) a support was drawn (entry point). (Screen attached)

Probably I should have entried at the beggining of the regular session (support drawn), but no KC helping this idea.


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cam111
13 Posts
Posted - 02/28/2012 21:25:09    
...OK, ya'll are going to roll your eyes with this request, but I'm going to ask it anyways. I'm really new to trading using any type of strategy or scanning based on key fundamentals. To this point I've traded between 8-10 stocks in industries that I know very well and/or past companies. So far, my approach is to go through the list of closing prices and if they close down by more than 1.0% I'll buy in the morning given they dont keep falling, and if the close up and are close to a 52wk high I'll short them. I generally buy in lots of 1000 and place limit sell orders in the .50 - 1.00 profit range. If the price doesn't move in a day I turn it into a swing trade and wait. My rationale is that most are well run companies and are good long positions. Doesn't work 100% of the time but has done OK for me. Here's the question, I absolutely believe in the strategy Tach has provided, but I don't "know" the companies the the scan has identified and don't have a good method to guide my entries. Can I ask if you would recommend how someone begins to self-educate on the technical indicators that the group has mentioned? If anyone would be so generous to offer a response, any chance you could rank/order the techniques I should become educated on? Thanks Cam.
ottrader
72 Posts
Posted - 02/28/2012 21:44:12    
it is interesting, I just did some back testing on replay with amibroker vs running an exploration, and I did about 3 months worth on IDCC and QCOR and came to find out that capturing 25% of the ADR is more than enough... also, the LL of the 9:30-10:15 EST session is not always breached during the entry time of 10:15-11:30AM... so the next low can be a HL or LL, and if HL then it appears to have (not always) a chance for HH's...not all that proficient at writing explorations yet to determine the probabilities over X amount of time, but we if anyone here can write something to determine the probabilities, it would be nice if they could share.
ottrader
72 Posts
Posted - 02/28/2012 21:56:59    
quote:
Originally posted by cam111
To this point I've traded between 8-10 stocks in industries that I know very well and/or past companies. So far, my approach is to go through the list of closing prices and if they close down by more than 1.0% I'll buy in the morning given they dont keep falling, and if the close up and are close to a 52wk high I'll short them. I generally buy in lots of 1000 and place limit sell orders in the .50 - 1.00 profit range. If the price doesn't move in a day I turn it into a swing trade and wait. My rationale is that most are well run companies and are good long positions. Doesn't work 100% of the time but has done OK for me.


not following, is your timeframe a day or however long it takes for your position to reach profit, and if so... why not just go with options for what you are doing? from what you are stating it sounds as if you hold through any drawdown period given you dont have an exit plan and then turn the "loser" positions into swing trades.. at least that is what I understand... but since we are not discussing your method on this thread, I will move on.

quote:
Originally posted by cam111
Here's the question, I absolutely believe in the strategy Tach has provided, but I don't "know" the companies the the scan has identified and don't have a good method to guide my entries. Can I ask if you would recommend how someone begins to self-educate on the technical indicators that the group has mentioned? If anyone would be so generous to offer a response, any chance you could rank/order the techniques I should become educated on? Thanks Cam.


knowing the companies has nothing to do, this are not swing or long term trades but rather short term day trades. As tach has done, you might choose some issues that meet the criteria that you decide to become familiar with and as such trade them day in and out; but nothing to do with fundamentals i would think. Tach system has defined and clear criteria for selection, profit targets and losses. I mean, I am surprised that he shared it to be honest, so I am thankful. It is simple and easy to qualify and it can be made into one's own by adjusting some of the criteria overall and based on one's risk parameters. for example, I am trying to eliminate $100+ stocks since I cant use margin on the IRA with TRAD and I dont like risking the whole account but only a percentage, and I dont want to transfer more funds into TRAD..

as to your need to learn technical analysis.. there are lots of sources out there... go to amazon.com and type technical analysis... read the reviews.. same goes for books.google.com, or go to 4shared.com and type "technical analysis" and you will see how many books will pop.

for a book just describing all technical indicators and some background on them I used The Encyclopedia Of Technical Market Indicators by robert colby.. that could be a starter point for you as well.


Tripk
25 Posts
Posted - 02/29/2012 08:47:33    
quote:
Originally posted by cam111
...OK, ya'll are going to roll your eyes with this request, but I'm going to ask it anyways. I'm really new to trading using any type of strategy or scanning based on key fundamentals. To this point I've traded between 8-10 stocks in industries that I know very well and/or past companies. So far, my approach is to go through the list of closing prices and if they close down by more than 1.0% I'll buy in the morning given they dont keep falling, and if the close up and are close to a 52wk high I'll short them. I generally buy in lots of 1000 and place limit sell orders in the .50 - 1.00 profit range. If the price doesn't move in a day I turn it into a swing trade and wait. My rationale is that most are well run companies and are good long positions. Doesn't work 100% of the time but has done OK for me. Here's the question, I absolutely believe in the strategy Tach has provided, but I don't "know" the companies the the scan has identified and don't have a good method to guide my entries. Can I ask if you would recommend how someone begins to self-educate on the technical indicators that the group has mentioned? If anyone would be so generous to offer a response, any chance you could rank/order the techniques I should become educated on? Thanks Cam.


Here are a couple links that are generally reliable. I'm using Keltner Channels as an example but you can look at all the indicators. Keep in mind Tachyonv has modified these so you need to read his documentation to understand their workings.

http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?st=keltner+channel&id=chart_school:technical_indicators:keltner_channels
http://www.incrediblecharts.com/indicators/keltner_channels.php
split
108 Posts
Posted - 02/29/2012 10:22:54    
Closed NFLX in at 10:03 + .64 (scaled out)
cam111
13 Posts
Posted - 02/29/2012 11:39:53    
Closed NFLX at + .52 in about 20 seconds. Back in NFLX at lower price, but it is currently down...could have been a bad move. Closed QCOR at +26. ...waiting right now on V and RRC (was up .32 and I didn't pull the trigger)
DirtyGoatee
41 Posts
Posted - 02/29/2012 11:44:33    
Took NFLX for .52

PANL - liked the chart around 10:15-10:20, too early for me to trade this method or these names around earnings.
ALXN - liked it around 11:10, didn't take

Tachyonv - I know in the previous posts you stated you buy on the bid and sell on the ask, so you never use buy stops to enter at all, at it breaks above a bar?
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