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PACER123
4 Posts
Posted - 03/27/2012 16:35:32    
Tradred two today, Central Time, ALXN 8:51AM IN, 8:58AM OUT +.54. HUM 9:15AM IN, 11:35AM out (Stop out)-.20. For HUM, looked like the best entry was around 10:45AM, then it would get +.52 in a short time. HUM late run up, but after I have stopped out.
quark
5853 Posts
Posted - 03/27/2012 16:51:44    
Pacer

What would have happened if you had used a 1.00 stoploss on HUM?
quark
5853 Posts
Posted - 03/27/2012 17:51:25    
I sincerely hope that everyone using tachyonv's strategy posts their results including timezone, symbol, entry and exit times. tachyonv stated on the original page he was expecting people to succeed...and anticipated positive results.

I am disappointed that only a few people have posted their trades. tachyonv wanted to teach people something and it appears that only split, yitana, Hook and a few others are participating...I am sincerely sorry if I did not mention other names but I won't review all of the pages to make this post...politically incorrect...so to speak.

how can tachyonv teach anything, if no one posts their real time trading.

StratMan
2056 Posts
Posted - 03/27/2012 20:54:22    
Ainigma, thanks for the comments on Beta. As for the Cliff Notes version, I'm following Tachy's and Quark's Trading Rule outlines contained herein with the only deviation of using the TS Beta value.

Regarding Beta, as shown in the image below, it is not an active filter in the Scan. Rather, it is set to display whereupon after the scan completes, all symbols with Beta's less than .8 are manually copied-n-pasted into Tachy's "Tradable Symbols" RS indicator, which seems to work just fine.


Hook, appreciate your feedback and have the Beta filter covered as noted right above. Regarding KevinKDog's code on Page 2, yes, that is the code I'm using except I revised it from his original version with "Average" to employing "XAverage."


{Intraday Volatility Method. Target $500 profit.
https://community.tradestation.com/Discussions/Topic.aspx?Topic_ID=117838

"Tachy_EMA_APR"
Based On:
"KJD AvgRange" Filter: Code by KevinKDog
StratMan revised with XAverage per Tachy's spec}

[SameTickOpt=True];
[LegacyColorValue=True];
inputs:
Length(34);

variables:
AvgRange1( 0 );

Value1 = High-Low;

AvgRange1=XAverage(value1,length);
{AvgRange1=Average(value1,length);}

Plot1( AvgRange1, "AvgRange1" ) ;


Note: Did use the "code box," but it screwed up the horizontal scroll!!!

Split, thanks for the comments on your Scanner settings. Here are the ones I'm using as shown below. Assuming the Scanner filters process the data in a top-down manner, I always try to use the server filters first unless an ELD filter will have a greater effect on reducing the symbol data. Then again, if the Scanner does not process top-down, forget that idea. As for the symbols, only the NAZ and DJIA currently are being used as I learn this method with equities first before venturing into ETFs/ETNs.

Regarding your question: "So when tachyonv states 'First scan with TS scanner to find up to about 950 candidates with above parameters excluding the beta.' Does he mean before the server filter is applied?" Based on observing how the Scanner operates with both server and EL filters, it appears that we cannot control what is used first unless we create two different Scans; Server and then EL that runs off of the results from the Server Scan. If wrong, I'm sure someone will correct me.

Based on my Scan Criteria as shown in the image below, each scan is yielding approx 700-900 symbols depending on the Price Range and minimum Volume used. After selecting only the Beta < .8 symbols, about 150-200 or so symbols remain that are copied into the RS. From there, I delete all non-Tradable symbols and then zero-in on the symbols with the highest APR per Tachy's Tradable Symbols indicator. In the end, there are about 20-30 candidates of which I plan to trade the top 5-10 APR symbols.

Below the Scanner Criteria image, you'll find two images showing ALL "Tradable" symbols followed by a third image showing the top symbols with APR > 1.0.

Again, thank you for your replies.


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DATA/20120327202636StratMan_TSF-TopicID=117838_TachyVolatilityScalper_RS-Symbols_01_20120327.jpg
DATA/20120327202646StratMan_TSF-TopicID=117838_TachyVolatilityScalper_RS-Symbols_02_20120327.jpg

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StratMan
2056 Posts
Posted - 03/27/2012 21:37:37    
How in the world do you learn how to "read the tape?"
StratMan
2056 Posts
Posted - 03/27/2012 21:44:49    
quote:
Originally posted by quark

I sincerely hope that everyone using tachyonv's strategy posts their results including timezone, symbol, entry and exit times. tachyonv stated on the original page he was expecting people to succeed...and anticipated positive results.

how can tachyonv teach anything, if no one posts their real time trading?
That seems reasonable, Quark. Me? I'm just now finding some time to study all this and build my Desktops/Workspaces as Tachy suggested with the goal of SimTrading this in the days ahead... In between client EL projects.

Question: Since I'm not at all clear on how to select the early morning High (to go short) or Low (to go long), are you saying our entry and exit times would help us with that task?
Tripk
25 Posts
Posted - 03/27/2012 22:09:16    
FYI - for comparison, this is what i get using Stockfetcher:

AGQ b=n/a
OPEN b=.42
KORS b=.06
NFLX b=.62
TNA b=n/a
LNKD b=.21
GOLD b=.40
TQQQ b=n/a
ALXN b=.53
PRGO b=.67
QLD b=n/a

Appears Stockfetcher BETA calcs are different from Yahoo.

Split, Quark, theHook, TradingDude, Ainigma - i don't have much to post as i'm sim trading this but appreciate all the info and insights you all are posting.

Ainigma - interested in hearing more on the Fibs, i'm testing a pane with Fibs plotted from previous day Hi/Low.

quote:
Originally posted by Ainigma
Thanks hook.
Split, using 800k vol, 34 days, NO BETA YET, etc... SCANNER using 7,941 symbols after apply server filters nets 1006 symbols for me today, resulting in 53 candidates for transfer to Radar vetting. 31 of these show as possible to Trade and, Ultimately, Yahoo beta rating reduces these to:
ALXN-b=0.26
PRGO-b=0.32
NFLX-b=0.46
GMCR-b=0.65
REGN-b=0.68
-----------
DECK-b=0.95
OPEN-b=0.97
CRR -b=1.09
NBL -b=1.22
VMW -b=1.26
(just listing beta values over the cutoff as a reference)
A.
PACER123
4 Posts
Posted - 03/27/2012 22:52:34    
quote:
Originally posted by quark
Pacer

What would have happened if you had used a 1.00 stoploss on HUM?


I used tight stop, if I had used 1 point, the trade could be a winner. However, I still think the key is when to enter. In my case for HUM, the better entry was around 10:45 AM CST. It needs a lot of patience.

split
108 Posts
Posted - 03/28/2012 04:30:58    
Anyone been in touch with tachyonv outside the forum, hows he doing ?

Hope he's OK. Wouldnt be surprised (or blame him) if he thought to hell with sitting in front of a computer screen, life's too short.
split
108 Posts
Posted - 03/28/2012 04:49:12    
Pacer123,

I agree, the key to this method is the entry. The exit rules are clearly explained on the first page and can easily be automated.

The entry is explained as 'entering on a low' and this is where the skill is required.

So far I havent really paid much attention to the T&S when entering, found it difficult see any patterns especially when trading multiple symbols as Im constantly switching from one workspace to the other. I think good entry's can be achieved watching price action and possibly knowledge of cycles.

My only trade yesterday on ALXN was based on an hourly cycle and worked well but not sure if it was just luck. It was certainly nice not to take any heat on the trade.


quark
5853 Posts
Posted - 03/28/2012 10:59:07    
tachyonv

I am now using your KC and I would not have entered a trade on NFLX until possibly this current bar ....if it closes above the lower KC line...none of the other green candlesticks have closed above the lower KC....the %R is "off" alittle because of being in a downtrend. 1100 EDT

I would have entered at 118.92 1101 EST
quark
5853 Posts
Posted - 03/28/2012 11:16:45    
At this point 119.30 I would move my stop to breakeven 118.95...to cover commission. 1115 EDT
theHook
3721 Posts
Posted - 03/28/2012 11:18:37    
-1.00 on ALXN this morning.
quark
5853 Posts
Posted - 03/28/2012 11:19:57    
Hook

what were your entry/exit times?
theHook
3721 Posts
Posted - 03/28/2012 11:27:22    
quote:
Originally posted by quark
Hook

what were your entry/exit times?


entered during the 10:25edt bar and stop exited during the big drop 10:55edt bar.
theHook
3721 Posts
Posted - 03/28/2012 11:43:54    
NFLX +.52 entered 10:35edt bar exited 11:40edt bar
StratMan
2056 Posts
Posted - 03/28/2012 11:47:23    
Edit: Back To Coding...
quark
5853 Posts
Posted - 03/28/2012 11:59:00    
Hook

What did you base your entries upon for both ALNX and NFLX?
theHook
3721 Posts
Posted - 03/28/2012 12:09:22    
quote:
Originally posted by quark
Hook

What did you base your entries upon for both ALNX and NFLX?


First green bar after the KJD Avg Low Time over the last 30 days -- I prefer it is "near" the lower keltner (just below or just above). I went a little early on NFLX and was regretting my entry but it recovered nicely.
quark
5853 Posts
Posted - 03/28/2012 12:14:14    
Hook

Interesting....by using that method what is your average win/loss %....over how much time 2-3 weeks???
quark
5853 Posts
Posted - 03/28/2012 12:32:56    
mtom

I am not certain what you mean "and a trend this should be #1"

tachyonv uses:

tachyonv's Keltner channels
Candlestick bars
% R
tachyonv volume indicator
time and sales window

to pick his entry and he has a winning% >= 90% with a win/stoploss ratio of 1:2...but he also points out you should not take a loss if your current position after entry is positive.

This is a countertrend scalping strategy...only on the buy side.
theHook
3721 Posts
Posted - 03/28/2012 12:36:44    
quote:
Originally posted by quark
Hook

Interesting....by using that method what is your average win/loss %....over how much time 2-3 weeks???


I don't trade it everyday but since Tach started the thread maybe once or twice a week. I don't have that information on win and loss but I can tell you my net stock account is larger. Sorry for the lack of info.

I am still in "test" mode and only trade 200 shares and a few times only 100 shares.

I only pick 1 or 2 stocks to trade on any day and consider my risk low at this point using the +.52 on the up side and -1.00 on the down side. I don't try to manage my upside potential at this point because of being busy with other futures trading. I will come back after placing a trade every 10 minutes or so as other trading allows and may move the +.52 down some - no method here as it relates to Tach process just price movement.
quark
5853 Posts
Posted - 03/28/2012 12:45:00    
Hook

thanks....I was just curious about how effective the avg low point was. I don't trade this either since I only trade one instrument on the future's market. I traded a similar method in the last century...1990's that was 85-90% correct (both short and long entries)...never could break 90%. I do stuff differently now and use intraday cycles, no oscillators.

I would hope others would share their entry technique so the rest of us can learn.

thanks again for sharing



For those using avg low point please post your current stats....I am guessing 75-83% win/loss. If my guess is wrong no offense but if you are getting > 87% please post in detail your strategy of entry and stoploss management.


quark
5853 Posts
Posted - 03/28/2012 12:55:37    
tachyonv

Have you ever traded this strategy going short?

If not what problems did you/ do you see with using your strategy going short?

Did you ever play around with an adaptive %R? If so please don't tell us your secrets.
quark
5853 Posts
Posted - 03/28/2012 15:37:31    
split/yitana

how did you do today?? My intraday cycle told me to stop trading 2 hours ago...thus my multiple posts.
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