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migleve
13 Posts
Posted - 03/08/2012 12:00:34    
Tach, when will you tell us the other strategy with short trades too? I'm dying to know something about it :))

fmhthree1000
12 Posts
Posted - 03/08/2012 17:56:33    
Tachyonv-

I stumbled on this thread this morning and read every post. looking forward to setting up workspace and hearing more chatter. thanks for sharing.
bwjr
132 Posts
Posted - 03/09/2012 10:35:29    
ULTA +0.77, NFLX +0.77, VFC +0.52, yesterday had one trade EW +0.11
migleve
13 Posts
Posted - 03/09/2012 10:57:27    
NFLX +0.52
cadi786
2856 Posts
Posted - 03/09/2012 11:19:44    
Nothing wrong with trading against trend, if you are making money, but NFLX high a week ago 117.84 and then low on Wednesday was 102.53

Yesterday was only day in the last 5 to actually close higher.

theHook
3721 Posts
Posted - 03/09/2012 12:24:54    
CRR +.52 RRC break even.
theHook
3721 Posts
Posted - 03/09/2012 13:06:07    
tach -- that is the hardest part for me so far -- the patients to wait for the trade.
cam111
13 Posts
Posted - 03/09/2012 14:56:22    
GMCR - during pre-trading hours, could not get a fill even at 5 staggered orders of 100/ea shares. Is this common? Closed GMCR during regular session +.74.

Cadi - good point, I've taken a beating (amplified by using poor dicipline/timing and not following the strategy) on NFLX that I am standing by and watching that one.
quark
5853 Posts
Posted - 03/09/2012 15:08:50    
tachyonv

How apropo was your last post Some people may be disappointed next week if they did not study/understand the links that you posted. FYI, I don't consider that the markets are driven by random actions. Hope you rest over the week-end and feel better next week.

quark
TradingDude
18643 Posts
Posted - 03/09/2012 15:27:37    
quote:
Posted by Tachyonv:
The lack of observations and comments on one aspect of this method herein, TIME/TIME OF DAY, may mean insufficient attention and understanding of it.

This method is based upon repetitive human behaviors and human actions with respect to time: cycles caused by humans.

The deeper the method is understood, the better it can be traded. It is like an onion, multiple layered.


quote:
GMCR - during pre-trading hours, could not get a fill

quote:
Tachyonv posted- Trade:
- Buy 1,000 shares at a low price between the open and 10:45 AM Central. Much of the time, the best prices are between 9:15 AM Central and 10:30 AM Central


Tach, agree with your comments.

Your guidelines and "Rules" are explicit.

It always amazes me how people given a set of rules, can not or will not or are not able to carry them out, no matter how potentially profitable a method might be. Just won't take the time and put in whatever effort is necessary to either succeed or proof to themselves it is not ( at least does not satisfy their individual goals, objectives, trading style etc...)

Jumping to the next great indicator to reach the elusive Holy Grail...

TradingDude

stockstrader
5665 Posts
Posted - 03/09/2012 15:36:55    
quote:
Originally posted by quark
tachyonv

How apropo was your last post Some people may be disappointed next week if they did not study/understand the links that you posted. FYI, I don't consider that the markets are driven by random actions. Hope you rest over the week-end and feel better next week.

quark


+1 quark. Even Puppeti would agree. Glad to see you alive and well
BillyBingBing
284 Posts
Posted - 03/09/2012 16:11:42    
quote:
Originally posted by tachyonv
The lack of observations and comments on one aspect of this method herein, TIME/TIME OF DAY, may mean insufficient attention and understanding of it.

This method is based upon repetitive human behaviors and human actions with respect to time: cycles caused by humans.

- That is why it has worked for so long, and why it will likely work for decades to come.
- That is why we have not interferred much with each others' fills even though trading a relatively small number of symbols.
- That is why I had/have no fears about losing any of my own profits by sharing this method.

Markets are driven by combinations of random and non-random actions, scheduled and unscheduled events. Traded properly, this method takes advantage of all of these, excepting only those unscheduled events which go against it.

The deeper the method is understood, the better it can be traded. It is like an onion, multiple layered.

Don't just look for magic trigger points in price, or price and volume, or the indicators.
cadi786
2856 Posts
Posted - 03/09/2012 16:27:23    
quote:
Originally posted by tachyonv
cadi, that is all irrelevant when trading intraday cycles and not holding overnight, using this method.
My comment was just a point of interest, not questioning validity of the method.

There are all kinds of ways to trade.
BillyBingBing
284 Posts
Posted - 03/09/2012 16:54:46    
No, No. No. N, Where is the f-ing comma? No, No, No---No. Markets are constructed. Certainly since 1998. It has little to do with human behavior. Now yesterday a perfect Cup with handle was formed better than a text book example because bill O'Neil doesn't even offer such an example in his Text book How to Make Money in the StockMarket. Here's how its done. The Market Manipulator, a single person or corporation. Not the Russian Mafia or the Chinese Government or evil Romanian Hackers But True Blue. Apple pie U.S. citizen. Who would that be? Probably Bill O'Neil himself. He's bragging in his book about buying a MainFrame and programming it himself. Well he And his pals and that is was way back in the 1970s. Well this computer creates a constance flow of buy and sell Orders. I like to think of it as a constance barometric pressure in loop wind tunnel. The pressure can be controled to create chart patterns. Any trader wether a retail or institutional trader that buys or sells that creates a turbelence within the air stream of the tunnel. In this case the tunnel is the stock exchange and the action of the computer software is the wind. So Wind a turbelence is introduced to the constance pressure it is detected by the software. The software can identify the time, amount and the location of the turbelence and estamate which technical indicator was triggered to introduce the buy or sell order. This infomation a feedback from the software to the exchange to change the action of the Market to foil the traders supposed position. Not always successful but in any case the total infomation gathered and catagoryized globally in the since that TradeStation thinks about Globalization. and the software can be tweeted to countermand the detected turbelance.
Are you with me so far?
BillyBingBing
284 Posts
Posted - 03/09/2012 17:14:45    
quote:
Originally posted by TradingDude
quote:
Posted by Tachyonv:
The lack of observations and comments on one aspect of this method herein, TIME/TIME OF DAY, may mean insufficient attention and understanding of it.

This method is based upon repetitive human behaviors and human actions with respect to time: cycles caused by humans.

The deeper the method is understood, the better it can be traded. It is like an onion, multiple layered.


quote:
GMCR - during pre-trading hours, could not get a fill

quote:
Tachyonv posted- Trade:
- Buy 1,000 shares at a low price between the open and 10:45 AM Central. Much of the time, the best prices are between 9:15 AM Central and 10:30 AM Central


Tach, agree with your comments.

Your guidelines and "Rules" are explicit.

It always amazes me how people given a set of rules, can not or will not or are not able to carry them out, no matter how potentially profitable a method might be. Just won't take the time and put in whatever effort is necessary to either succeed or proof to themselves it is not ( at least does not satisfy their individual goals, objectives, trading style etc...)

Jumping to the next great indicator to reach the elusive Holy Grail...

TradingDude


BillyBingBing
284 Posts
Posted - 03/09/2012 17:28:28    
Yes the best indicator does't get its action from Stock price or volumn. Hopefully the Wind tunnel won't reconize the turbelence. Like data derived from some other source other than the Stock Market.like an oscilliscope sine wave derived from a sound recording of Street trafic. Or streaming data taken from a temperture recording devise from a weather Station. Wait a minute, I'm not kidding.
coolobjectgen
35 Posts
Posted - 03/10/2012 09:18:11    
Tach, I was going over this forum from begin. It is amazing you have so much energy to spend and tell your ideas. I really admire your dedication.
Apollo
1509 Posts
Posted - 03/10/2012 09:23:12    
quote:
Originally posted by worm0z
No, No. No. N, Where is the f-ing comma? No, No, No---No. Markets are constructed. Certainly since 1998. It has little to do with human behavior. Now yesterday a perfect Cup with handle was formed better than a text book example because bill O'Neil doesn't even offer such an example in his Text book How to Make Money in the StockMarket. Here's how its done. The Market Manipulator, a single person or corporation. Not the Russian Mafia or the Chinese Government or evil Romanian Hackers But True Blue. Apple pie U.S. citizen. Who would that be? Probably Bill O'Neil himself. He's bragging in his book about buying a MainFrame and programming it himself. Well he And his pals and that is was way back in the 1970s. Well this computer creates a constance flow of buy and sell Orders. I like to think of it as a constance barometric pressure in loop wind tunnel. The pressure can be controled to create chart patterns. Any trader wether a retail or institutional trader that buys or sells that creates a turbelence within the air stream of the tunnel. In this case the tunnel is the stock exchange and the action of the computer software is the wind. So Wind a turbelence is introduced to the constance pressure it is detected by the software. The software can identify the time, amount and the location of the turbelence and estamate which technical indicator was triggered to introduce the buy or sell order. This infomation a feedback from the software to the exchange to change the action of the Market to foil the traders supposed position. Not always successful but in any case the total infomation gathered and catagoryized globally in the since that TradeStation thinks about Globalization. and the software can be tweeted to countermand the detected turbelance.
Are you with me so far?


Yes, Worm. I'm with you...
Redlock
383 Posts
Posted - 03/11/2012 04:14:30    
First, my thanks to tachyonv for sharing his system/methodology. I realize that in his first post for thread, tach layed out the plan.
Now might be a good time to review the plan:

Use TS's Scanner to screen equities for the following parmeters:
1) Intraday EMA(34) price range >= 2.00
2) Closing price between $30 - $125/sh.
3) Beta <= 0.7
4) Avg. Daily Vol. > 800,000shares

Load the stocks from the scanner into Tradable Symbols RadarScreen w/APR_Recent Days input parameter set to 34.
Double click on APR_Recent Days ("Recent APR" in RadarScreen?) column to get sequenced from highest to lowest.
Select those symbols with APR Recent values => $2.00 and that are not rejected for other reasons.

Set up charts formated for candle sticks, Keltner Channels, %R and Vol. EMA indicator.

TRADE:
Buy 1,000 shs. between 8:30 - 10:45 am CT (best prices, (i.e., lowest) are between 9:15 & 10:30

Sell after price has risen $0.52/sh or by 12:35 pm CT

Use a trailing stop.

As to a stop loss - $.25?

Don't get greedy and make only one trade/day/equity.

If I missed anything, please fill in but I wanted to keep it simple.

One request, what equities currently pass the screening?
Without looking up Beta I get; NFLX, PXD, PRGO, OPEN, ALXN - is that about correct?

Great thread, thanks again to Tachyonv and all the rest that have posted.

Red
split
108 Posts
Posted - 03/12/2012 11:38:07    
NFLX +.52 caught the early rise, very quick profit
RRC -.25 got in too early
bwjr
132 Posts
Posted - 03/12/2012 12:33:56    
I jumped into RRC as well but tightened stop and lost -0.29
I caught some of PANL at +0.40, so still ahead for day.
theHook
3721 Posts
Posted - 03/12/2012 13:40:59    
RRC -.04
split
108 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2012 08:47:38    
quote:
Originally posted by split
quote:
Originally posted by tachyonv
ALXN good entries at 9:30 (Central) around $82.65, now trading at $83.86.

NFLX good entries at 9:30 around $121.70 now trading at $124.09.

PRGO good entries at 9:30 around $94.35, rose to $94.85 around 10:50 am, although now trading back down around $94.46.

RRC good entry at 9:30 at $63.00, rose to $63.55 and thereabouts multiple times, now trading around $63.39.

Each one worked fine today. Easy $2000 if you had traded them, Tom47. And you could have made lot more with the first two.

And now you would be in cash, free for the afternoon, with no worries about carrying open trades overnight.

How does that song go..."I'm a believer..."?



tachyonv

Would be interested in any commentary/advice you can provide on why you would have taken these entry's at these times/prices.

I have looked at the charts and there are possible entry's shortly before the price/time you mentioned but would have taken some heat before being profitable whereas your entry's take very little or no heat.

ALXN


NFLX



quark
5853 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2012 11:07:43    
split read and study tachyonv link below:

https://community.tradestation.com/discussions/topic.aspx?topic_id=18787
quark
5853 Posts
Posted - 03/13/2012 13:05:55    
tachyonv:

"This is a high win rate method with relatively low risk. If you are not achieving 80% to 93% win rate or if you are suffering a large loss once in a while, then you are probably not trading with sufficient self-discipline, and/or too impatiently and/or not paying enough attention to/understanding the indicators"
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